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== Messing Around ==
== Messing Around ==


=== Guides Page ===
===Interviews===


<h1 class="guide-header uppercase">[[BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle/Guides/Characters|Characters]]</h1>
Example table of important information related to interviews that might help someone find what they're looking for (or aid them in browsing interviews).
{{Icon Grid|<!--
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Ragna the Bloodedge}}<!--
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Jin Kisaragi}}
|width=100%|maxwidth=100%
|class=character-grid bb
}}


<h1 style="guide-header uppercase">Gameplay</h1>
{| class="sortable wikitable"
{{Icon Grid|<!--
!Date
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=System}}<!--
!Title
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Story Mode<br>Includes a guide as well as Miss Litchi, Gag Reels}}<!--
!Featured Staff
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Arcade Mode}}<!--
|-
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Grim of the Abyss}}<!--
|2017 12 31
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Speed Star}}<!--
|[[AppBank 2017 Year-End Creator Survey Vol. 2]]
-->{{Icon|BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Logo.png|caption=Trophies}}
|Toshimichi Mori, Masaomi Kikuchi
|width=100%|maxwidth=100%
|-
|class=character-grid center
|2018 02 12
}}
|[[ARC_Live!/EP2|ARC Live! EP2 - Q&A w/ Daisuke & Mori]]
|Daisuke Ishiwatari, Toshimichi Mori
|-
|2018 03 14
|[[ARC Live!/EP6|ARC Live! EP6: Q&A w/ Arc System Works President, Minoru Kidooka!]]
|Minoru Kidooka
|-
|2018 04 20
|Blazblue: Central Fiction Official Setting Material Collection<br>[[BlazBlue:_Central_Fiction_Official_Setting_Material_Collection/Interview|Producer Toshimichi Mori Special Interview]]
|Toshimichi Mori
|-
|2018 06 06
|Dengeki Online<br>[[Dengeki Online BlazBlue 10th Anniversary Event And Developer Free Talk|For BlazBlue's 10-year anniversary, Mori-P and Kana Ueda take a look back. New 'Dark War' info as well!?]]
|Toshimichi Mori, Ueda Kana
|}


 
* PROPOSITION: Interviews be subpages of their source page i.e. Dengeki Online/Interview Name Here
=== Top News Page ===
** PRO: You can immediately see what sources produced which interviews
<tab collapsed openname="Messing Around" style="width:100%">
** PRO: Each source can have its own description page.
(ie *BlazBlue: Alternative Dark War/News* or *BlazBlue: Alternative Dark War/Events*)
** CON: Stubs for sources that only produce a few interviews or are largely irrelevant
 
** CON: Page names won't be intuitive: "Dengeki Online Interviews" would be more accurate
In BlazBlue: Alternative Dark War there are special events which include major game updates in the form of limited-time maps, items, story, or gacha. But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful.
** Example navigation: Category:Interviews > Dengeki Online Interviews > scan table for date, staff member, title > hover link for page preview & description
 
*** Could be messy if searching across sources for an interview at a certain date (will need to open multiple pages - Weekly Famitsu, Famitsu.com, Dengeki Online, Dengeki PlayStation, Kotaku, Gematsu, etc)
==== 2018 ====
** ALTERNATIVE: not having interviews be subpages (add the title as the first word in the article name - AppBank 2017 Survey, Dengeki Online BB 10th Event)
{{Icon|Protagonists (BBADW Render).png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Pretend]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
*** PRO: Interviews will be automatically split by source via alphabetical sorting on category pages
{{Icon|BlazBlue Central Fiction Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|These]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
*** CON: Alphabetical sorting might be undesirable sometimes (e.g. if you want to keep Weekly Famitsu and Famitsu.com articles grouped together). The alternative would be a less intuitive naming convention e.g. "Famitsu Weekly" and "Famitsu.com"
{{Icon|BlazBlue Continuum Shift Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Are]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
** ALTERNATIVE: Adding source as a category and omitting it from the title
{{Icon|BlazBlue Calamity Trigger Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|News]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
*** PRO: Categories can be used with more complex MediaWiki features (eg #ask parser function).
{{Icon|BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Banners]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
*** CON: leaves organization on the category page wanting. Forces one to browse by the relatively meaningless category of source
{{Icon|BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Banners]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
* PROPOSITION: Adding date (or year) in the title of the article
{{Icon|BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Banners]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
** PRO: Interviews will be automatically sorted by year/date via alphabetical sorting on category pages
{{Icon|BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Banners]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
** CON: can bloat the title with relatively meaningless information (aside from sorting it's not valuable information)
{{Icon|BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Logo.png|width=200x150px|imglink=#20180306|caption=[[#20180306|Banners]]<br>Jan 13 23:00 - Jan 15 20:00}}
* PROPOSITION: Archive older articles in subcategories split by year (Category:Interviews > Category:2017 Interviews, with 2018 interviews under Category:Interviews until 2019 rolls over)
</tab>
** Example navigation: Category:Interviews > if looking for an older interview, go to the subcategory of interview by year (e.g. Category:2016 Interviews); else scan the list of interviews from the current year.
 
=== Individual Page ===
[[#20180306|#20180306 - click me!]] (it jumps to <nowiki><div id="20180306"></nowiki>)
 
<section begin=20180306/>
<!--
 
    DIVIDER/TITLE BAR
 
-->
<div style="border:1px solid; padding:0em 1em .5em 1em; margin:.5em 0em;">
<h3><section begin=20180306-title/><span id="20180306">Some Sort of Title Goes Here!!!</span><section end=20180306-title/></h3>
Prev | March 3 | Next
</div>
<!--
 
    BODY
 
-->
<div style="border:1px solid; padding:.5em;">
<section begin=20180306-inner/>
<div style="text-align:center"><section begin=20180306-banner/>
<tabs plain>
<tab name="2019 Rerun">
[[File:Protagonists (BBADW Render).png|150x150px|alt=This is an event banner.]]
</tab>
<tab name="2018">
[[File:Protagonists (BBADW Render).png|150x150px|alt=This is an event banner.]]
</tab>
</tabs>
<section end=20180306-banner/></div>
 
<section begin=20180306-newsonly/><!--
--><h4 style="border-bottom:1px solid; padding:.5em; margin:.5em 0em; font-size:20px">
Subheader!!
</h4>
But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful.
 
<h5 style="border-left:3px solid; padding:0; padding-left:.5em; margin:1.5em 0 0 0;">
Campaign Period
</h5>
March 16, 2018 (Friday) 20:00 to March 16, 2018 (Friday) 21:00
 
<h5 style="border-left:3px solid; padding:0; padding-left:.5em; margin:1.5em 0;">
Small Subheader (may not be used in some news articles)
</h5>
 
<table><tr>
<td>[[File:BlazBlue Central Fiction Logo.png|150x150px|alt=This is an event banner.]]</td>
<td style="vertical-align:top; padding-left:1.5em;">
For example, have some stats!<br>
Stat1: ★★★★☆<br>
Stat2: ★★☆☆☆
</td></tr></table>
 
<table><tr>
<td>[[File:Protagonists (BBADW Render).png|150x150px|alt=This is an event banner.]]</td>
<td style="vertical-align:top; padding-left:1.5em;">
Protagonist<br>
Dragged into Dark War's world, the two protagonists the player can choose.
</td></tr></table>
 
<section end=20180306-newsonly/><section end=20180306-inner/></div><section end=20180306/>
 
===Section Example===
Include the above section in a page with the following:
<pre><nowiki>
{{#lst:pagename|sectionname}}
{{#lst:User:Chao|20180306}}
</nowiki></pre>
 
===Section Template===
<tab collapsed openname="Template Usage" style="width:100%">
<pre>
{{Template Name
| id = 1  (the IDNUMBER)
| date = March 3, 2018
| banner = Banner image here (e.g. [[File:Banner.png]])
| news = all the news stuff goes here.
}}
 
{{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER}} Include the whole news article as-is
{{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER-title}} Include the article's title's text. You can jump to it with #IDNUMBER
  for example, use the following to make the text a header
  =={{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER-title}}==
{{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER-inner}} Include the article's text. Excludes the title.
{{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER-banner}} Includes the article's banner only.
{{#section:Page Name|IDNUMBER-newsonly}} Includes the news only - Excludes the title and banner.
</pre>
</tab>
 
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<pre>
<section begin={{{id}}}/>{{#set:Date={{{date|}}}}}
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<div style="border:1px solid; padding:0em 1em .5em 1em; margin:.5em 0em;">
<h3><section begin={{{id}}}-title/><span id="{{{id}}}">Some Sort of Title Goes Here!!!</span><section end={{{id}}}-title/></h3>
Prev | {{{date|}}} | Next
</div>
<!-- BODY -->
<div style="border:1px solid; padding:.5em;">
 
<section begin={{{id}}}-inner/><section begin={{{id}}}-banner/>
<div style="text-align:center">
{{{banner|}}}
</div><section end={{{id}}}-banner/>
 
<section begin={{{id}}}-newsonly/>{{{news}}}<section end={{{id}}}-newsonly/><section end={{{id}}}-inner/>
</div><section end={{{id}}}/>
</pre>
</tab>


== Useful References ==
== Useful References ==

Revision as of 20:00, 6 June 2018

I write templates, do translations, and help out where I can.

10th Anniversary!

Project Progress

Completed | In Progress | In Backlog | On Hold | Not Started (needs further conversation/consideration)

High priority:
  • Blue Radio (newest season)
  • Character Quotes (BBCF material collection)
  • Command Lists (BBTAG, backlog)
  • Concept Art notes
  • Locations/stages (BBTAG)
  • Birthdays (current)
  • BBTAG updates
  • BBDW updates, BlazBlue Walker
  • Dark Theme (Cathedral)
  • Birthdays (backlog)
  • What's wrong with mobile? (Minerva dark theme)
  • Challenge Mode Combos
  • Arcade Mode Transcripts
Low(er) priority:
  • Merchandise (trying to stay up to date)
  • Collaborations
Backburner:
  • Events (i.e. tournaments, live events, concerts)
  • BlazBlue Mobile (it's defunct so this is more for trivia purposes)

General Organization, Missing Pages, etc

Pages: None

Templates: Character Tabs, Quote, Character Navigation, Gallery Navigation, Gameplay Navigation, Infobox Location, Audio

Categories: Terms and Setting

Planned:

  • Character subpages
    • Biography
      • Move biographies to a subpage
      • Alternate timelines in tabbers (ie Tsubaki - main, CT1, TWoF)?
    • Quotes
      • "/Quotes" (top page) contains notable (story) quotes, in-character Blue Radio lines, and tabs to navigate its subpages?
      • Subpages for each game (ie "/Quotes/BBCF"): (A & B) battle lines, winquotes, unique encounters, system voice
    • Command Lists
      • Command Lists for each game (BBCT, BBCS, BBCP, BBCF, BBTAG)
      • Includes tutorials/how to play/playstyle descriptions
    • BBDW
      • for BBDW-specific things (in-game profile(s), alters, weird lore, timeline shenanigans, stats, skills, etc.)
      • General Structure: all information on BBDW/Units/Bullet with sections to be transcluded on Bullet/BBDW?
      • When more information comes out, create a BBDW infobox. Example skeleton: Unit info, stats, skills, strategy, other versions, references, navigation.
  • Collaborations masterpage
  • Locations/stages infobox

<tab collapsed openname="Details & Progress" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;">

Content
QC pages
Add 10th anniversary images (bday images)
Characters' challenge mode combos
Pages & Categories
Write pages for missing Locations, Stages, Media (ie BlazBlue Mobile)
Organization & Presentation
Offer BlazBlue-related themes/skins (dark version esp) -> Minerva Noire
How to make it easier to navigate BlazBlue wiki by redoing the main page?
Character Subpages
Command List subpage (includes "How to play/Tutorial")
Write a custom template for character subpage tabs.
Gallery - needs a rehaul for sprites and keeping story spoilers more hidden
BBDW (for in-game profile(s), alters, weird lore, alternate timeline shenanigans)
Collaborations Masterpage
(since one for each collab would be overkill, especially with ancient/dead/hard to datamine ones), refer to (Media from Collaborations?)

</tab>

Translations

Status: On Schedule

Pages: Blue Manga, BlazBlue Walker, backlogged birthday illustrations, concept art notes

Templates: Blue Manga Navigation, BlazBlue Walker Navigation

Categories: Blue Manga, BlazBlue Walker

Merchandise, Events

Status: In Backlog

Pages: Merchandise

Templates: Merchandise Tabs, Merchandise Navigation, Merchandise Item

Categories: Media of Merchandise, Media from Events

<tab collapsed openname="Details & Progress" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;" title="Example tooltip">

News and Events
News updates/translations?
Events?
Merchandise
Move items from Merchandise masterpage to separate subpages
Write initial Tabs and Navigation templates for the collection of merchandise subpages.

</tab>

<tab collapsed openname="Considerations" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;" title="Example tooltip">

Master Page
(1)  mixed info: Events, Merchandise, Announcements, Tournaments (Comiket, Arc Revo, Blue Radio, new game announcements)
Merchandise
(1)  Music albums get their own page, since music is important to BlazBlue as a franchise.
(2)  DVDs e.g. for Blue Radio R/R2 and Music Concerts get their own page
(3)  Do other merchandise get individual pages? Or are they just lumped into a "merchandise" master page?
     * (ie) BlazBlue Sets @ Comiket, individual items @ broccoli online shop?
     * what about items sold in multiple places? (ie Es Works)
-> They get split by type (ref Category:Media of Merchandise)

</tab>

Blue Radio

Status: In Backlog

Pages: Blue Radio

Templates: Blue Radio Episode

Categories: Blue Radio

Coordinate watching Blue Radio.
Track:
(1) corners & descriptions, which corners appear in which episodes
(2) official cut-in art
(4) notes on: in-character skits, new product details, any development or production details, fun (BB-related) corners, or go by intuition.

<tab collapsed openname="Details & Progress" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;" title="Example tooltip">

To Do
Description of each corner - track which corners show up in which episodes
Place the logo on the side?

</tab>

Master Gallery

Status: Stable

Pages: Gallery Pages

Templates: Master Gallery, Gallery Section

Categories: Media Categories

<tab collapsed openname="Changelog" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;" title="Example tooltip">

2018
Jan 19 Add "Collaborations" section, move LOV Re:2, LOVIII, Mabinogi Duel, and Unlimited VS under "Collaborations."
2017
Dec 28 Add "Animations" subsections for each game (for openings, endings, and any other cinematic sequences)
Dec 15 Renamed "Special Artwork" to "Guest Artwork," and split its contents between itself and the new Staff Extras subsection/category. Also added an Icons subsection.
Dec 10 Added collaboration subsections (LOVIII, LOVRe:2, Mabinogi Duel)
Dec 02 Cleaned up animation section, added a separate VIDEOS section that can be manually added to with the video parameter.
Nov 27 Initial release

</tab>

<tab collapsed openname="Details & Progress" style="width:100%; font-weight:bold;" container="font-style:default; font-weight:normal;" title="Example tooltip">

Code
Change the Gallery Section template to sort Main Artwork by date. -> only mainline games (CT/CS/CP/CF/TAG) have Main Artwork, so this isn't a problem)
Add support for video embeds (add a Videos section and a video parameter)
Image tags
"Lobby Avatar" -> Category:Lobby Avatars
"Normal Pose" -> Category:Portraits
"Swimsuit Pose" -> Category:Portraits
"Young Pose" -> Category:Portraits
"Crest" -> Category:Crests
didn't know where to put Embryo so just left it tagged "Crests", no character tags
"Chibi" -> Category:Chibi
"Chibi.png" -> Category:Chibi
"Sprite Reference" -> Category:Palette References
Mai needs captions
"Avatar" -> Category:Portraits as necessary
"Sticker" -> Category:Stickers (XBlaze, BlazBlue Blue Radio, BlazBlue)
"Wallpaper" -> Category:Wallpapers
"Birthday" -> Category:Birthday Art
"Storyboard" -> Category:Storyboards
"Model Sheet" -> Category:Model Sheets
Category:Relius Clover -> go add Category:Ignis to the relevant ones.
Category:Rachel Alucard -> go add Category:Gii and Category:Nago to the relevant ones.
BlazBlue Central Fiction
BlazBlue Calamity Trigger
BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma
Clone Phantasma
XXX "Arcade" -> Category:Arcade Mode tag w/ characters & locations
XXX "Story" -> Category:Story tag w/ characters & locations
"BlazBlue Central Fiction Story Mode"

</tab>

Messing Around

Interviews

Example table of important information related to interviews that might help someone find what they're looking for (or aid them in browsing interviews).

Date Title Featured Staff
2017 12 31 AppBank 2017 Year-End Creator Survey Vol. 2 Toshimichi Mori, Masaomi Kikuchi
2018 02 12 ARC Live! EP2 - Q&A w/ Daisuke & Mori Daisuke Ishiwatari, Toshimichi Mori
2018 03 14 ARC Live! EP6: Q&A w/ Arc System Works President, Minoru Kidooka! Minoru Kidooka
2018 04 20 Blazblue: Central Fiction Official Setting Material Collection
Producer Toshimichi Mori Special Interview
Toshimichi Mori
2018 06 06 Dengeki Online
For BlazBlue's 10-year anniversary, Mori-P and Kana Ueda take a look back. New 'Dark War' info as well!?
Toshimichi Mori, Ueda Kana
  • PROPOSITION: Interviews be subpages of their source page i.e. Dengeki Online/Interview Name Here
    • PRO: You can immediately see what sources produced which interviews
    • PRO: Each source can have its own description page.
    • CON: Stubs for sources that only produce a few interviews or are largely irrelevant
    • CON: Page names won't be intuitive: "Dengeki Online Interviews" would be more accurate
    • Example navigation: Category:Interviews > Dengeki Online Interviews > scan table for date, staff member, title > hover link for page preview & description
      • Could be messy if searching across sources for an interview at a certain date (will need to open multiple pages - Weekly Famitsu, Famitsu.com, Dengeki Online, Dengeki PlayStation, Kotaku, Gematsu, etc)
    • ALTERNATIVE: not having interviews be subpages (add the title as the first word in the article name - AppBank 2017 Survey, Dengeki Online BB 10th Event)
      • PRO: Interviews will be automatically split by source via alphabetical sorting on category pages
      • CON: Alphabetical sorting might be undesirable sometimes (e.g. if you want to keep Weekly Famitsu and Famitsu.com articles grouped together). The alternative would be a less intuitive naming convention e.g. "Famitsu Weekly" and "Famitsu.com"
    • ALTERNATIVE: Adding source as a category and omitting it from the title
      • PRO: Categories can be used with more complex MediaWiki features (eg #ask parser function).
      • CON: leaves organization on the category page wanting. Forces one to browse by the relatively meaningless category of source
  • PROPOSITION: Adding date (or year) in the title of the article
    • PRO: Interviews will be automatically sorted by year/date via alphabetical sorting on category pages
    • CON: can bloat the title with relatively meaningless information (aside from sorting it's not valuable information)
  • PROPOSITION: Archive older articles in subcategories split by year (Category:Interviews > Category:2017 Interviews, with 2018 interviews under Category:Interviews until 2019 rolls over)
    • Example navigation: Category:Interviews > if looking for an older interview, go to the subcategory of interview by year (e.g. Category:2016 Interviews); else scan the list of interviews from the current year.

Useful References

Pages

Categories

External Links