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This is only a short list of grimoires. There is a lot of repitition.

My general team usage for grimoires is

- DPS (Crit Astral)

- Heat Gen

- Utility

- Situational 4th

Type	Best	S	A	B	C
DPS (Crit Astral)	(★5) Extreme Violence	(★5) Azure Grimoire	(★5) A Moonlit Night in Wadatsumi (★5) A Tender Moment (Nine)	(★5) Photogenic Twilight (★5) Twilight Breath	(★5) A Brief Respite (★5) Blue-Star Bonds (★5) ULTRA CHACHA ATTACK!
DPS (No Crit Astral)	(★5) Azure Grimoire	(★5) A Moonlit Night in Wadatsumi (★5) A Tender Moment (Nine)	(★5) Photogenic Twilight	(★5) Blue-Star Bonds	(★5) Cascading Incandescence (★5) Manifestation of Technique
DPS (Crit DD)	(★5) Extreme Violence	(★5) A New Possibility (Future)	(★5) A Moonlit Night in Wadatsumi (★5) A Tender Moment (Nine) (★5) Azure Grimoire	(★5) New Encounters (★5) Photogenic Twilight (★5) Twilight Breath	(★5) A Brief Respite (★5) Blue-Star Bonds (★5) The Awakening of the Black Dragon of Calamity (★5) ULTRA CHACHA ATTACK!
DPS (No Crit DD)	(★5) A New Possibility (Future)	(★5) A Moonlit Night in Wadatsumi (★5) A Tender Moment (Nine) (★5) Azure Grimoire	(★5) New Encounters (★5) Photogenic Twilight	(★5) Blue-Star Bonds (★5) The Awakening of the Black Dragon of Calamity	(★5) Cascading Incandescence (★5) Manifestation of Technique
Heat Gen - Drive Support	(★5) Irreconcilable Concepts	(★5) Imperator's Light	(★5) Burning Red	(★5) Manifestation of Technique	(★5) A Tea Party Most Elegant (★4) Endless Pursuit
Heat Gen - Skill Support	(★5) Imperator's Light	(★5) Burning Red	(★5) Manifestation of Technique	(★4) Endless Pursuit	(★4) Student Council
Utility Support	(★5) Dance of the Exorcist (★4) Preparing for War	(★5) Summer Sea's Treasure	(★5) One-Eyed Warrior	(★5) Tea Party	(★5) A Tender Moment (Celica)
Tank Support (For Vigor)	(★4) Preparing for War (★5) Symbol of the Duodecim	(★4) Hero of the Frozen Blade (★5) Summer Sea's Treasure	(★5) Dance of the Exorcist (★4) Of course I'd help out!!
General Bulk for Support	(★5) A Garden and Two Maidens (★4) Preparing for War (★5) Summer Sea's Treasure	(★5) Arbitrator's Might (★5) Dance of the Exorcist (★4) The Stillness of a Moonlit Night	(★5) Imperator of War (★5) Wings of Truth	(★5) Blue-Star Bonds (★5) Imaginary Creature (★5) Pseudo-Observer	(★5) A Tender Moment (Celica) (★5) Great Combination
Hate Down for Squishy Support	(★5) Intelligence Department	(★4) Spectacles of Eros	(★4) Mercenary Squad of One	(★4) Adventure for Two	(★4) Invisible

Notes

To pair with my Character Tier List, and looking only at characters A and above (as of the first draft):

Character	Grimoire Role	Reason
Most top tier DPS	DPS (Crit Astral)	A Crit Astral is basically peak damage for the vast majority of the cast. If crits are not feasible, you don't go for crits. Crits are better than no crits though.
(SS) Jubei	DPS (Crit Astral) / DPS (Crit DD)	I actually don't know which is best, this needs further testing. I didn't own Jubei in the first event, but both his AH and his S - DD - DD - DD chain are incredibly potent. Depends on the comp, and the triple DD cannot benefit from Tenjo's negative.
(SS) Tenjō Amanohokosaka	Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)	Tenjo's ability to tank and play Drive Support depends on the opposing element. If she is elementally weak, she can play Drive. If she is elementally strong, she can play Tank. When neutral, utility is safe. This goes for most supports, but since Tenjo has Vigor herself, she will almost always fill that role.
(SS) Tweyen	Utility Support / General Bulk for Support	Tweyen has a bad stat spread for the support role. Too much damage to be a drive support, too little bulk to be a tank. Normal bulk is best.
(SS) Djeeta	Heat Gen - Skill Support	Djeeta has the best heat gen skill in the game. She is also a very good support outside that, but you want to exploit her heat gen as much as possible with the correct grimoire.
(SS) Kokonoe	Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor) / General Bulk for Support	Clicking all 4 boxes means that any grimoire is fine really, depends on the role that is required from her.
(SS) Mei Amanohokosaka	Preparing for War	If you don't have Perparing for War, see Kokonoe's explanation.
(SS) Sechs	Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor) / General Bulk for Support	Sechs is probably the best drive support here when it comes to pure gains, since he can inflate heat very very quickly. He can also play tank in the front row, but if he does, he does too much damage to be the Drive Support.
(AI) Ciel Sulfur	Hate Down for Squishy Support	Ciel is squishy support. Very squishy.
(SS) Jin Kisaragi	Utility Support / General Bulk for Support	Jin does way too much damage to be pressing buttons. If he is there as support, its just for his skill 2.
(SS) Mai (Midsummer Fairy)	Heat Gen - Skill Support / Heat Gen - Drive Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)	% based Heat Gen grimoires also inflate her S heat gen. Likewise, her passive means that someone else can play the role of Drive Support if needed, but against a weak element she can do it too. She can also tank, but that's not using her meter to its fullest potential.
(SS) Rachel Alucard	Heat Gen - Drive Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)	Rachel generates meter faster than anyone else on D naturally. This makes her the ideal Drive support. She can also be a tank support if required, since her def down is very solid.

For some notes on some character specific grimoires:

Grimoire	Character	Reason
(★5) A Tender Moment (Nine)	Vs Wind	The buff that Nine gets is wholly irrelevant. This is just a solid general grimoire thanks to its high atk and atk up.
(★5) A Brief Respite	(SS) Another Dark Mai	AD Mai loves using the grimoires above this more, but it is a viable choice to look at.
(★5) ULTRA CHACHA ATTACK!	(SS) Chachakaka	Chachakaka does get good value from her personal grimoire, making it viable for her. She isn't that good overall, however.
(★4) Preparing for War	(SS) Mei Amanohokosaka	Basically manditory on Mei and only Mei. This will keep everyone healthy effortlessly, which helps with getting Vigor to proc.
(★5) A Tender Moment (Celica)	(SS) Celica A. Mercury	At the bottom in case a stage pops up that does require an aoe cleanse from an aoe stun for whatever reason. Incredibly unlikely. Not impossible. Celica is also not absolutely worthless, since she can passively buff older sisters a very respectable 20% ATK.

Comments

If you have an opinion, feel free to edit it into this section.

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-This is only a short list of grimoires
+This is only a short list of grimoires. There is a lot of repitition.
+My general team usage for grimoires is
+- DPS (Crit Astral)
+- Heat Gen
+- Utility
+- Situational 4th
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 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Burning Red}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Manifestation of Technique}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Tea Party Most Elegant}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Tea Party Most Elegant}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Endless Pursuit}}
 |-
 ! Heat Gen - Skill Support
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 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Burning Red}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Manifestation of Technique}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Tea Party Most Elegant}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Endless Pursuit}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" |
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Student Council}}
 |-
-! Clerical Support
+! Utility Support
-| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Preparing for War}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Dance of the Exorcist}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Dance of the Exorcist}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Preparing for War}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Summer Sea's Treasure}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" |
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|One-Eyed Warrior}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Tea Party}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Tender Moment (Celica)}}
 |-
-! Mei
+! Tank Support (For Vigor)
-| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Preparing for War}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Preparing for War}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Symbol of the Duodecim}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" |
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Hero of the Frozen Blade}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Summer Sea's Treasure}}
-| style="vertical-align:top;" |
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Dance of the Exorcist}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Of Course I'd Help Out!!}}
 | style="vertical-align:top;" |
 | style="vertical-align:top;" |
+|-
+! General Bulk for Support
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Garden and Two Maidens}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Preparing for War}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Summer Sea's Treasure}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Arbitrator's Might}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Dance of the Exorcist}} {{bbdw|grimoire|The Stillness of a Moonlit Night}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Imperator of War}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Wings of Truth}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Blue-Star Bonds}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Imaginary Creature}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Pseudo-Observer}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|A Tender Moment (Celica)}} {{bbdw|grimoire|Great Combination}}
+|-
+! Hate Down for Squishy Support
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Intelligence Department}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Spectacles of Eros}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Mercenary Squad of One}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Adventure for Two}}
+| style="vertical-align:top;" | {{bbdw|grimoire|Invisible}}
 |}
 ==Notes==
+To pair with my [[User:Jewvia/CharaTierList/HighScoreRanking|Character Tier List]], and looking only at characters A and above (as of the first draft):
+{| class="wikitable"
+! Character || Grimoire Role || Reason
+|-
+! Most top tier DPS
+| DPS (Crit Astral)
+| A Crit Astral is basically peak damage for the vast majority of the cast. If crits are not feasible, you don't go for crits. Crits are better than no crits though.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Jubei}}
+| DPS (Crit Astral) / DPS (Crit DD)
+| I actually don't know which is best, this needs further testing. I didn't own Jubei in the first event, but both his AH and his S - DD - DD - DD chain are incredibly potent. Depends on the comp, and the triple DD cannot benefit from Tenjo's negative.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Tenjō Amanohokosaka}}
+| Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)
+| Tenjo's ability to tank and play Drive Support depends on the opposing element. If she is elementally weak, she can play Drive. If she is elementally strong, she can play Tank. When neutral, utility is safe. This goes for most supports, but since Tenjo has Vigor herself, she will almost always fill that role.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Tweyen}}
+| Utility Support / General Bulk for Support
+| Tweyen has a bad stat spread for the support role. Too much damage to be a drive support, too little bulk to be a tank. Normal bulk is best.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Djeeta}}
+| Heat Gen - Skill Support
+| Djeeta has the best heat gen skill in the game. She is also a very good support outside that, but you want to exploit her heat gen as much as possible with the correct grimoire.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Kokonoe}}
+| Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor) / General Bulk for Support
+| Clicking all 4 boxes means that any grimoire is fine really, depends on the role that is required from her.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Mei Amanohokosaka}}
+| Preparing for War
+| If you don't have Perparing for War, see Kokonoe's explanation.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Sechs}}
+| Heat Gen - Drive Support / Utility Support / Tank Support (For Vigor) / General Bulk for Support
+| Sechs is probably the best drive support here when it comes to pure gains, since he can inflate heat very very quickly. He can also play tank in the front row, but if he does, he does too much damage to be the Drive Support.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Ciel Sulfur}}
+| Hate Down for Squishy Support
+| Ciel is squishy support. Very squishy.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Jin Kisaragi}}
+| Utility Support / General Bulk for Support
+| Jin does way too much damage to be pressing buttons. If he is there as support, its just for his skill 2.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Mai (Midsummer Fairy)}}
+| Heat Gen - Skill Support / Heat Gen - Drive Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)
+| % based Heat Gen grimoires also inflate her S heat gen. Likewise, her passive means that someone else can play the role of Drive Support if needed, but against a weak element she can do it too. She can also tank, but that's not using her meter to its fullest potential.
+|-
+! {{bbdw|char|Rachel Alucard}}
+| Heat Gen - Drive Support / Tank Support (For Vigor)
+| Rachel generates meter faster than anyone else on D naturally. This makes her the ideal Drive support. She can also be a tank support if required, since her def down is very solid.
+|}
+For some notes on some character specific grimoires:
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Grimoire || Character || Reason
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 | At the bottom in case a stage pops up that does require an aoe cleanse from an aoe stun for whatever reason. Incredibly unlikely. Not impossible. Celica is also not absolutely worthless, since she can passively buff older sisters a very respectable 20% ATK.
 |}
 ==Comments==
 If you have an opinion, feel free to edit it into this section.